Where did Cowboy and Indian come from?
I wanted to play with stereotypes. I’ve had to go into auditions for parts where they want me to do the accent or wear hijab, and I was like, you know what? I want to claim this. I want to claim my culture and where I’m from but then I want people to realize in terms of anything that you experience, what you see might not be what you get. I wanted to turn that on its head.
I feel like you hear a lot of horror stories of people getting sent to auditions for really offensive stereotypical characters. Some actors advise people to not take those kind of roles, but it’s not really an option to turn down roles when they’re trying to get their careers off the ground. What is your take on that?
I think there’s a balance. If there’s something offensive about the role, then for sure then don’t take it. I think this happens more with brown guys where there’s the terrorist roles. But it’s different in terms of comedy and drama. There could be this amazing role about an Indian woman that’s dramatic that isn’t making fun of the culture or making it a stereotype, and it’s just this really great role. I would do the accent, and it wouldn’t be offensive. But in comedy, I think sometimes when the joke is about them being Indian or being Muslim or being black, then that’s where I would want to say, “This is not an appropriate joke.”
I think you just have to listen to yourself. If you really need the money just do it, or if you don’t, then pass on it and something better will hopefully come.
How has your experience with that process as an actress affected your work as you shift into more writing and directing?
It’s so much more empowering being more than an actor. I try to encourage people who are here as solely actors to get into writing because the roles I want to play haven’t been written yet. Or they’ve been written by people of color. Playing Cece on Awkward Black Girl was a dream come true because it was a normal girl that just happened to be Indian, and of course that role was written by a woman of color.
I love writing about normal Indian girls who are just living their life. I love writing from a personal point of view and getting those stories out there so I can inspire little brown girls.
What was the journey like going from Awkward Black Girl to Insecure?
None of us on Awkward Black Girl expected to be apart of Insecure because we knew it was a whole different world. But Issa called me and said, “There’s a really small part for an Indian girl in the pilot, would you just come and shoot it and the role will get bigger in upcoming episodes?” And I was like, “Of course! Yes! Yes!”
Shooting the pilot was just amazing. People are always talking about diversity, [but] Issa’s actually doing it. I got to the set and from the [production assistant] to the [director of photography] to the director to the showrunner, it’s all people of color. I’m just seeing black girls everywhere, it’s such a utopia. When I get to another set, I’m like oh my god, there’s so many white guys, what’s up with that?
Being on the set of Insecure is such a dream. We were shooting the episode on the beach, and we had all those kids. I remember I was standing there watching the kids get off the school bus, and I started to get emotional, and I started to cry a teensy bit, and one of the teen girls looked up at me like, “ARE YOU CRYING?” And I was like, “No, no it’s just really windy!” |